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Does PhD pedigree matter?

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 Choosing a School for PhD

This post is inspired in large part by discussion over at Cosmic Variance about the importance of choice of particular graduate school and pedigree effect. Two extreme points of view are: a) pedigree matters a great deal, having a top school name on your resume will enhance your chances of getting a job and b) pedigree effect is non-existent, and if you are smart and do good science, it doesn’t matter where your degree is from. Additional discussion centered on issue of difficulty of “upward” mobility – which means that most people tend to get positions down the ranking ladder from their PhD institutions, not up.
It’s of course difficult to do proper “controlled” measure of pedigree effect – maybe students selected by top program would do just as well in lower ranked programs, who knows.
So let’s ask a different question – how many of the academic jobs in top research universities go to PhDs from the top programs? Ideally one would want to focus on recent hires only, looking at entire faculty makeup means integrating over the past50 or 60 years, with a big hiring spike in sputnik/cold war years. One way to address this issue is to look only at associate and assistant professors, which typically represent recent hires. Another, possibly better, way is to limit by the years of PhD (say count only PhDs obtained past 1995), but it involves more work. I spent about 4 hours compiling the data, and not sure I want to spend much more on this, even though it is a lot of fun and I am a sucker for playing with numbers.
So here’s the statistics, and I will criticize methods later – AIP graduate program listings, which I believe are compiled in 2005-2006 list 636 professors in the top 50 institutions (I used NRC’95 rankings) in associate or assistant rank. Typically their PhD years span about 12-15 year period from about 1990 till ~2003-2004. 162 of them have foreign PhDs (more on that later) and 472 held PhDs from US. More than half of those hires have PhDs from just 8 institutions: Harvard, Princeton, MIT, Berkeley, Chicago, Stanford, Caltech and Cornell. The effect is larger than I expected, but perhaps not completely unexpected.
Below are the institutions that have 3 or more PhD graduates among 636 assistant/associate rank professors in the top 50 physics programs:

Harvard University

Princeton University

MIT

Univ. of California-Berkeley

University of Chicago

Stanford University

CALTECH

Cornell University

University of Michigan

Columbia University

University of Minnesota

Univ of California-San Diego

Univ of CA-Santa Barbara

Univ of Il Urbana-Champaign

University of Washington

Yale University

SUNY-Stony Brook

University of Texas at Austin

Univ of Wisconsin-Madison

Johns Hopkins University

University of Pennsylvania

University of Rochester

Univ of California-Los Angeles

Univ of Maryland College Park

Northwestern University

Rice University

University of Colorado

Boston University

Indiana University

Rutgers -New Brunswick

Brandeis University

Duke University

Purdue University

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39

34

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29

28

26

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14

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Foreign degrees are more scattered all over the world, but here’s some strong contributors:

MoscowCambridgeOxford

Munich

Toronto

Vienna

Warsaw

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Top 10 universities contribute 59% of US PhD hires, those ranked 11-20 provide another 18%, the next ten ranked 21-30 provide 10%, and ALL of the remaining US universities contribute remaining 12% or so.

More charts like:

Percentage of PhDs that goes on to become faculty at top 50 universities.

Comparison ranking in terms of total PhD hires and ranking of USNews and NRC.

and the complete article is available at Incoherently Scattered Ponderings

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Law School Rankings vs. Parent University Rankings

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By Paul L. Caron

From Which Law Schools Outrank the Undergraduate Institutions With Which They’re Affiliated?

U.S. News Rankings: Law v. Undergrad

Here are the Top 100 law schools that have overcome the most headwind — the law schools with the biggest positive spread between its ranking and the ranking of its parent university

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Note that the chart understates the spread in many cases, because it assigns the highest possible ranking to schools in the Third (#131) and Fourth (#196) Tier of the National Universities Rankings.

Other Top 20 law schools that are ranked significantly higher than their parent universities are

Michigan (#8 Law, #25 National University)

Virginia (#10, #23)

USC (#16, #27)

UCLA (#15, #25).

Update:  Several readers commented that since U.S News ranks more national universities (262) than law schools (184), a more meaningful measure would look at the disparity by percentiles rather than by absolute rank.  See here for a ranking by percentiles
 

Law Schools Ranked Lower Than Their Parent Universities

The law schools that are ranked significantly lower than their parent universities
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Percentiles rather than absolute ranks have been used because U.S News ranks more national universities (262) than law schools (184). Schools in Tier 3 and Tier 4 the percentile ranking of the midpoint of those tiers because U.S. News does not disclose the actual rank of those school

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Entrepreneurship – where is it taught best?

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Recently New York Times published an article about the subject. Interest in Entrepreneurship is growing and the study programs are increasingly being offered. Nearly 3000 colleges provide training in the subject.As with every thing American passion for Ranking of the ‘ Entrepreneurship’ programs is existing.

So which school is the right place for those interested in starting their own companies?

Fortune Small Business spent seven months interviewing hundreds of entrepreneurs, professors, administrators, students and alumni to try to find out.

The magazine answers the question this way: It found that the best places to get an Entrepreneurship education were:

Undergraduate

Babson College

Indiana University

Syracuse University

University of Arizona

University of Pennsylvania

Online Education

Boston University

University of Houston

University of Wyoming

Western Carolina University

Cross-Disciplinary Studies

Cornell

Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Stanford University

University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

Wake Forest.

Graduate School

Babson

Harvard

Indiana University

M.I.T

Stanford

Syracuse

University of Arizona

University of California at Berkeley

University of California, Los Angeles

University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

University of Pennsylvania

Executive Education

Babson

Harvard

Northwestern

Stanford

University of Chicago

University of Texas at Austin

Family Business

Babson

Baylor

Kennesaw State University

Loyola of Chicago

Northwestern

University of Texas at El Paso.

DOES PASSION TRUMP ALL? Maybe we have the whole approach to teaching entrepreneurship backward, George Gendron writes in Inc.

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Recruiters’ Top MBA Schools

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Extract of the article by Ronald Alsop published in Wall Street Journal (WSJ)
NATIONAL RANKING
Dartmouth’s Tuck School of Business in Hanover, N.H.
Tuck received its highest ratings this year for its “well-rounded” students, their personal integrity, interpersonal and communication skills, and teamwork abilities.

University of Michigan

Michigan had rivaled Tuck with its consistently strong showing in the survey in previous years, but some recruiters now complain about both the students and the career-services office. One survey respondent said more Michigan students are demonstrating a “what’s in it for me?” attitude.

“Students weren’t as prepared for interviews and were somewhat more arrogant than in the past,” says David Gallon, a survey respondent and senior strategic research consultant, truck and SUV, for Toyota Motor Corp. in Torrance, Calif.

Northwestern University

Northwestern University is another school that tumbled in the 2007 ranking — to 12th place from sixth — after a number of years near the top of the ranking. Recruiters said they were displeased with the pompous attitudes of some students at Northwestern’s Kellogg School of Management. Some students also proved disappointing in their financial knowledge.
The Sloan School of Management at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Sloan made a notable gain in the ranking, jumping six places to No. 4. It also moved up three places in the International ranking, to No. 5. Recruiters gave MIT its highest marks for students’ analytical skills and work ethic, and named it more than any other school for excellence in teaching information technology and operations management.

Anderson School of Management – UCLA

Anderson School rose to No. 15 after three straight years in the cellar. Recruiters said they are most impressed for its diversity and energy and for students’ strong leadership, interpersonal and teamwork skills.

Harvard University and Stanford University

Two schools that typically rank low despite reputations for academic excellence — again were criticized for what recruiters said were their students’ inflated egos and excessive expectations. Nevertheless, their graduates still end up landing some of the highest paying jobs.

REGIONAL RANKING

Brigham Young, in Provo, Utah

Year in and year out, recruiters rave about graduates’ maturity, competitive drive, integrity and international experience, especially from their missionary work for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Academically, the Marriott School receives high marks in the Journal survey for its accounting program. Some recruiters also are finding that more Brigham Young M.B.A.s make a good fit for investment banking. “BYU has put much more emphasis in preparing their students for investment banking,” says Steven Potter, a survey respondent and managing director at Banc of America Securities in New York. “At both the B.A. and M.B.A. levels, they have had outside firms come to the school to give a course on valuation techniques that is much more practical than theoretical.”

Thunderbird School of Global Management

Last year’s top-rated Regional school, experienced quite a turnabout, slipping 10 spots in 2007. Recruiters said the school produces some stars but that it admits too many students who lack enough work experience. Survey respondents also were critical of the many international students with weak communication skills and the need for visa sponsorships to work in the U.S.
“Thunderbird attracts good students who want ex-pat careers, but also average students who can afford the steep price and want to ride Thunderbird’s above-average reputation,” says Tom Kondo, a survey respondent and human resources manager for L’Oréal Paris in New York. “Often times, the average students will claim interest in international or ex-pat careers, but don’t really have the skills or desire to follow through. When we interview there, we always have to weed these students out.” Recruiters said they still consider it the top school in the world for teaching about international business.

Among the biggest gainers this year were three Boston-area schools: Boston University, Boston College and Babson College. Babson placed highest of the three at No. 21, up 14 spots from last year.

Three new schools broke into the top 10: Indiana University, the University of Florida and Emory University. Indiana jumped 10 places to No. 5 this year, as recruiters noted that students are more polished and sharper, especially in their marketing skills, and that the career-services office has become more responsive. The survey respondents awarded Indiana higher scores this year for incorporating experiential learning into the curriculum, faculty expertise and course content, and overall recruiting value.

INTERNATIONAL RANKING
ESADE and Switzerland’s International Institute for Management Development (IMD) held on to first and second place again this year, while No. 3 London Business School and No. 4 IPADE Business School in Mexico swapped places.
This year, ESADE was rated highest for students’ personal integrity, their teamwork abilities and the career-services office.

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Average MBA Starting Salaries

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Rank Business School Applicants
Accepted
Median Total
Pay Package
1 Northwestern (Kellogg) 13% $142,000
2 Chicago 15% $140,000
3 Harvard 10% $160,000
4 Stanford 8% $165,500
5 U. of Pennsylvania (Wharton) 13% $156,000
6 MIT 13% $149,000
7 Columbia 11% $142,500
8 Michigan 19% $131,000
9 Duke (Fuqua) 19% $128,500
10 Dartmouth (Tuck) 14% $149,500
11 Cornell (Johnson) 22% $135,000
12 Virginia (Darden) 18% $135,000
13 UC Berkeley (Haas) 11% $135,000
14 Yale 15% $130,000
15 NYU (Stern) 15% $140,000
16 UC Berkeley (Haas) 11% $117,000
17 Washington U. (Olin) 33% $89,000
18 U. of Texas – Austin 23% $97,000
19 North Carolina (Kenan-Flagler) 24% $107,000
20 Yale 25% $116,000
21 Indiana (Kelley) 24% $92,000
22 Maryland (Smith) 21% $84,500
23 Wisconsin 47% $70,000
24 Purdue (Krannert) 25% $86,500
25 USC (Marshall) 26% $93,000


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Arizona State University

Auburn University

Binghamton University

Boston University

Cal Poly–San Luis Obispo

California State Polytechnic University–Pomona

California State University–Los Angeles

California State University–Northridge

Clemson University

Columbia University (Fu Foundation)

Cornell University

CUNY–City College

Dartmouth College (Thayer)

Florida Atlantic University

Florida State University/Florida A&M University

George Mason University

George Washington University

Georgia Institute of Technology

Howard University

Illinois Institute of Technology

Indiana University-Purdue University–Indianapolis

Iowa State University

Kansas State University

Kettering University

Lamar University

Lawrence Technological University

Lehigh University

Louisiana State University–Baton Rouge

Louisiana Tech University

Loyola Mary Mount University

Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Mississippi State University

Montana State University

National Technological University

New Jersey Institute of Technology

New Mexico State University

New York State College of Ceramics at Alfred University

North Carolina A&T State University

North Carolina State University

North Dakota State University

Northeastern University

Northwestern University

Oakland University

Ohio State University

Ohio University

Oklahoma State University

Oregon Graduate Inst. of Science and Technology

Oregon State University

Penn State University–University Park

Polytechnic University

Portland State University

Prairie View A&M University

Purdue University–West Lafayette

Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute

Rutgers State University–New Brunswick

San Jose State University

South Dakota School of Mines and Technology

South Dakota State University

Southern Methodist University

Stanford University

SUNY College of Environmental Science and Forestry

SUNY–Stony Brook

Syracuse University

Tennessee State University

Tennessee Tech University

Texas A&M University–College Station

Texas A&M University–Kingsville

Texas Tech University

University at Buffalo

University of Alabama–Huntsville

University of Alabama–Tuscaloosa

University of Arizona

University of Arkansas

University of Bridgeport

University of California–Berkeley

University of California–Los Angeles

University of California–San Diego

University of Central Florida

University of Cincinnati

University of Connecticut

University of Dayton

University of Florida

University of Hartford

University of Houston

University of Illinois–Chicago

University of Illinois–Urbana-Champaign

University of Iowa

University of Kentucky

University of Louisville

University of Maryland–College Park

University of Massachusetts–Amherst

University of Massachusetts–Dartmouth

University of Massachusetts–Lowell

University of Memphis

University of Miami

University of Michigan–Ann Arbor

University of Michigan–Dearborn

University of Minnesota–Twin Cities

University of Missouri–Columbia

University of Missouri–Rolla

University of Nebraska–Lincoln

University of New Haven

University of New Mexico

University of North Carolina–Charlotte

University of Oklahoma

University of Pennsylvania

University of Pittsburgh

University of Rhode Island

University of South Florida

University of Southern California

University of Tennessee–Chattanooga

University of Tennessee–Knoxville

University of Texas–Arlington

University of Texas–Austin

University of Texas–El Paso

University of Toledo

University of Virginia

University of Washington

Utah State University

Virginia Tech

Wayne State University

Western Michigan University

Wichita State University

Widener University

Worcester Polytechnic Institute

Wright State University

Youngstown State University

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Graduate + Undergraduate Enrollment – USA Schools

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About 22000

Auburn University, Main Campus

Cypress College

Diablo Valley College

Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton

Kansas State University

Kent State University, Main Campus

Palomar College

Salt Lake Community College

San Diego Mesa College

University of Akron, Main Campus

University of Pennsylvania

Utah State University

West Virginia University

About 23000

De Anza College

Macomb Community College

Mesa Community College

Pasadena City College

Riverside Community College

Southern Illinois University, Carbondale

Southwest Texas State University

University of Nebraska at Lincoln

University of Nevada, Las Vegas

University of Virginia, Main Campus

About 24000

Eastern Michigan University

George Mason University

Georgia State University

Northeastern University

Northern Illinois University

Oakland Community College, Bloomfield Hills

Orange Coast College

University of Kentucky

University of Missouri, Columbia

University of New Mexico, Main Campus

University of South Carolina at Columbia

University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee

About 25000

Cerritos College

El Camino College

Harvard University

North Harris-Montgomery Community College

Portland Community College

SUNY at Buffalo

Texas Tech University

University of Illinois at Chicago

University of Massachusetts, Amherst

University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

University of Oklahoma, Norman Campus

Virginia Commonwealth University

University of Utah

About 26000

Austin Community College

California State University, Sacramento

University of Kansas, Main Campus

University of Tennessee

About 27000

Central Michigan University

Colorado State University

Iowa State University

San Francisco State University

San Jose State University

Tarrant County College

University of California, Davis

University of Pittsburgh, Main Campus

About 28000

Broward Community College

East Los Angeles College

Indiana U.-Purdue U. at Indianapolis

San Diego City College

Santa Ana College

Santa Monica College

Santa Rosa Junior College

University of Cincinnati, Main Campus

University of North Texas

Valencia Community College

Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State U.

About 29000

American River College

Boston University

California State University, Fullerton

College of Du Page

Mount San Antonio College

North Carolina State University at Raleigh

Pima Community College

Temple University

University of Iowa

Western Michigan University

About 30000

California State University, Northridge

Community College of Southern Nevada

University of Colorado at Boulder

University of Southern California

About 31000

California State University, Long Beach

Wayne State University

About 32000

Florida International University

Louisiana St. U. & A&M & Hebert Laws Center

San Diego State University

University of California, Berkeley

University of Georgia

About 33000

Brigham Young University

University of Houston, University Park

About 34000

Florida State University

University of Central Florida

University of Maryland, College Park Campus

About 35000

University of Arizona

About 36000

Rutgers University, New Brunswick

University of South Florida

About 37000

University of Washington, Seattle

University of California, Los Angeles

About 38000

Indiana University, Bloomington

New York University

Northern Virginia Community College

About 39000

University of Michigan, Ann Arbo

University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

About 40000

City College of San Francisco

Purdue University, Main Campus

About 41000

Houston Community College System

Pennsylvania State University, Main Campus

University of Wisconsin, Madison

About 44000

Michigan State University

About 45000

Arizona State University, Main Campus

Texas A&M University

About 46000

University of Florida

University of Minnesota, Twin Cities

About 47000

Miami-Dade Community College

About 48000

Ohio State University, Main Campus

About 50000

University of Texas at Austin

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