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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;DataQuest&#8217; 2007-Rankings of Indian Engineering Schools</title>
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		<title>By: ravi</title>
		<link>http://admissionsource.wordpress.com/2007/07/13/data-quest-top-schools-in-india-2007/#comment-15536</link>
		<dc:creator>ravi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 08:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i m frm ìit delhi. I am shockd 2 see dat sm premier clgs like punjab engg coleges and IcfaiTech,Dehradun are misng in d list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i m frm ìit delhi. I am shockd 2 see dat sm premier clgs like punjab engg coleges and IcfaiTech,Dehradun are misng in d list.</p>
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		<title>By: SBP</title>
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		<dc:creator>SBP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Research should play an important role in the ranking.. Only IITs and IISc and probably BITS do some research and if you consider the top in the world, even the best IIT in India stands some where near 140 to 160. Just imagine how much does this country have to grow! Instead of quibbling over petty issues like why your college is not in the top 1000 in India. try to focus on real issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Research should play an important role in the ranking.. Only IITs and IISc and probably BITS do some research and if you consider the top in the world, even the best IIT in India stands some where near 140 to 160. Just imagine how much does this country have to grow! Instead of quibbling over petty issues like why your college is not in the top 1000 in India. try to focus on real issues.</p>
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		<title>By: ajay</title>
		<link>http://admissionsource.wordpress.com/2007/07/13/data-quest-top-schools-in-india-2007/#comment-9547</link>
		<dc:creator>ajay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dont u think that thapar university is not evaluated corectly.
thapar is one of the oldest engg inst. of our country.
according to me it should be given rank in first 5.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dont u think that thapar university is not evaluated corectly.<br />
thapar is one of the oldest engg inst. of our country.<br />
according to me it should be given rank in first 5.</p>
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		<title>By: pushkar sharma</title>
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		<dc:creator>pushkar sharma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 06:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>your ranking of colleges is really absurd</description>
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		<title>By: swizzlefirma</title>
		<link>http://admissionsource.wordpress.com/2007/07/13/data-quest-top-schools-in-india-2007/#comment-566</link>
		<dc:creator>swizzlefirma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 07:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we dont see a nitk surathkal over here.</description>
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		<title>By: Mukesh Agrawal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mukesh Agrawal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi
In response to what G says about the research at IIT as compared to institutes like MIT or Stan ...
I could not resist myself from taking a comparative note of research being done at IIT/IISc and other indian institutes. Other than IIT/IISc there is no research at all. This is not any claim based on hollow facts but based on inputs given to me by my friends who have spend their fours years in different colleges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br />
In response to what G says about the research at IIT as compared to institutes like MIT or Stan &#8230;<br />
I could not resist myself from taking a comparative note of research being done at IIT/IISc and other indian institutes. Other than IIT/IISc there is no research at all. This is not any claim based on hollow facts but based on inputs given to me by my friends who have spend their fours years in different colleges.</p>
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		<title>By: dr. no</title>
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		<dc:creator>dr. no</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 18:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>our ancestors say that a wise person maintains silence and keenly observes the developments.
this is what BITS has been doing so far.But unfortunately the &quot;calm disposition &quot; is now being misunderstood .
What has been the congregation point for the board toppers since ages ...
What has been hailed by the &quot;AGNI-MAN&quot;(Dr.A.P.J. ABDUL KALAM)
as one of the premier educational institutes in the whole world does not require any rankings to proove its mettle.
All those tea time magazines that have been ranking obscure engineering colleges above IITs and BITS  are themselves 
playing havoc with their existence.
It is indeed high time to ignore such ridiculous magazines who 
instead of possesing a meticulous approach are busy churning out cheap money through con-business.
So,all the best for your survival....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>our ancestors say that a wise person maintains silence and keenly observes the developments.<br />
this is what BITS has been doing so far.But unfortunately the &#8220;calm disposition &#8221; is now being misunderstood .<br />
What has been the congregation point for the board toppers since ages &#8230;<br />
What has been hailed by the &#8220;AGNI-MAN&#8221;(Dr.A.P.J. ABDUL KALAM)<br />
as one of the premier educational institutes in the whole world does not require any rankings to proove its mettle.<br />
All those tea time magazines that have been ranking obscure engineering colleges above IITs and BITS  are themselves<br />
playing havoc with their existence.<br />
It is indeed high time to ignore such ridiculous magazines who<br />
instead of possesing a meticulous approach are busy churning out cheap money through con-business.<br />
So,all the best for your survival&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: g</title>
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		<dc:creator>g</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 20:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure why people should worry about the rankings at all. A ranking of the tech institutes seems to be out place.
 Let me explain the point.

 1. Facilities - A big parameter used for ranking is often facilities. But for an undergraduate education none of these &quot;high tech &quot;facilities really matter. Those who have been through udergrad education knows that the necessary labs are not so high tech and it can be provided without much funding.  I don think any of the institutes that has been &quot;ranked&quot; in top 50 or 100 lack any of these basic infrastructure needed in terms of labs or library or computers needed for an undergraduate education. 
These facilities become important at grad level and even IISc lacks a good grad education system. So facility is not a big deal in any of these institutes

 2. Faculty - Faculty is selected based on the criteria set by AICTE, which directs to have Phd holders to be in different grades of professor. You can go through the list of all these institutes and see who all are lacking that. Most of them dont lack that!
So in terms of faculty none of these institutes are behind. Then why is faculty important? They become important when they do research..
And the story of research in any Indian institute including IISc is pathetic. You don have to beleive me, just go to the faculty websites of these institutes and count the number of &quot;INTERNATIONAL&quot; journal publications they made in last 5-10 years, it cannot be compared with that of a chineese or Korean institute even! Basically all the profs enjoy their job like a &quot;govt&quot; employ, being lazy and doing nothing, except a few here and there. As an undergrad you don have to worry abt research coz unless u get to masters level u wont be in a position to start a research. So faculty is not a worry in any of these institutes and there is no point in a ranking based on faculty unless they do research.

 3. Student Input - This is what really makes the difference in any institute. The alumni of IIT or any big institute acheived great heights not bcoz they belonged to IIT its coz they are really talented. It doesnt really matter where the talent is nurtured whether in IIT or a college near ur house, a talented guy will allways stand out. You can have tons of examples of ppl who did not go to IIT, but became great!
So, if you have confidence that you can become a great engineer you dont have to be in IIT. Just nurture the passion and keep learning, IITs do not do anything special, its jus that students are in a highly competitive environment(bcoz all the 100 students in class are equally good) that they are forced to work hard. You don need that if you are really passionate about being an engineer, coz its a skill that you need to develop by working hard. After all engineering is about solving real issues, not writing exams! If you could fix your computer or work with electronics when u wer in high school then it means you have a talent, u jus have to nurture it.

Any young student out there who is reading these ranking, please dont get carried  away, I have done  my undergrad in one of these highly ranked institutes and I found out that except than posing a high profile they do not do anything to nurture the talent in you. So all that matters is the passion you have to become an engineer. If you work hard then jobs or grad schools will come looking for you! Please dont follow the some agencies criteria to choose a college..if you are so particular about rankings, find out wat grade AICTE gave the college, that will be good enuf.
What you need to look for is whether the college is good to give u a playground to nurture ur talent , believe me there are tons  of institutes that can do that. DOnt find an institute which is lacking even the basic facilities, for undergrad all u need jus basics.  

In the end its all depending on you, not the name of the institute or its rank. Getting inside any of these institutes doest guarantee a bright future or being unable to go to one of them doesnt mean you lost the battle, its all about how passionate you are in becomin an engineer!

 These rankings look stupid, if they hav to be ranked they must be ranked in terms of the research contributions. What did IIT or IISc contribute to our country in terms of research? Compare that with MIT or Cambridge or ETH Zurich.

So friends, don get carried away by these rankings they r stupid, find an institution that can give u all basic requirements and work hard and be passionate of becoming a good engineer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure why people should worry about the rankings at all. A ranking of the tech institutes seems to be out place.<br />
 Let me explain the point.</p>
<p> 1. Facilities &#8211; A big parameter used for ranking is often facilities. But for an undergraduate education none of these &#8220;high tech &#8220;facilities really matter. Those who have been through udergrad education knows that the necessary labs are not so high tech and it can be provided without much funding.  I don think any of the institutes that has been &#8220;ranked&#8221; in top 50 or 100 lack any of these basic infrastructure needed in terms of labs or library or computers needed for an undergraduate education.<br />
These facilities become important at grad level and even IISc lacks a good grad education system. So facility is not a big deal in any of these institutes</p>
<p> 2. Faculty &#8211; Faculty is selected based on the criteria set by AICTE, which directs to have Phd holders to be in different grades of professor. You can go through the list of all these institutes and see who all are lacking that. Most of them dont lack that!<br />
So in terms of faculty none of these institutes are behind. Then why is faculty important? They become important when they do research..<br />
And the story of research in any Indian institute including IISc is pathetic. You don have to beleive me, just go to the faculty websites of these institutes and count the number of &#8220;INTERNATIONAL&#8221; journal publications they made in last 5-10 years, it cannot be compared with that of a chineese or Korean institute even! Basically all the profs enjoy their job like a &#8220;govt&#8221; employ, being lazy and doing nothing, except a few here and there. As an undergrad you don have to worry abt research coz unless u get to masters level u wont be in a position to start a research. So faculty is not a worry in any of these institutes and there is no point in a ranking based on faculty unless they do research.</p>
<p> 3. Student Input &#8211; This is what really makes the difference in any institute. The alumni of IIT or any big institute acheived great heights not bcoz they belonged to IIT its coz they are really talented. It doesnt really matter where the talent is nurtured whether in IIT or a college near ur house, a talented guy will allways stand out. You can have tons of examples of ppl who did not go to IIT, but became great!<br />
So, if you have confidence that you can become a great engineer you dont have to be in IIT. Just nurture the passion and keep learning, IITs do not do anything special, its jus that students are in a highly competitive environment(bcoz all the 100 students in class are equally good) that they are forced to work hard. You don need that if you are really passionate about being an engineer, coz its a skill that you need to develop by working hard. After all engineering is about solving real issues, not writing exams! If you could fix your computer or work with electronics when u wer in high school then it means you have a talent, u jus have to nurture it.</p>
<p>Any young student out there who is reading these ranking, please dont get carried  away, I have done  my undergrad in one of these highly ranked institutes and I found out that except than posing a high profile they do not do anything to nurture the talent in you. So all that matters is the passion you have to become an engineer. If you work hard then jobs or grad schools will come looking for you! Please dont follow the some agencies criteria to choose a college..if you are so particular about rankings, find out wat grade AICTE gave the college, that will be good enuf.<br />
What you need to look for is whether the college is good to give u a playground to nurture ur talent , believe me there are tons  of institutes that can do that. DOnt find an institute which is lacking even the basic facilities, for undergrad all u need jus basics.  </p>
<p>In the end its all depending on you, not the name of the institute or its rank. Getting inside any of these institutes doest guarantee a bright future or being unable to go to one of them doesnt mean you lost the battle, its all about how passionate you are in becomin an engineer!</p>
<p> These rankings look stupid, if they hav to be ranked they must be ranked in terms of the research contributions. What did IIT or IISc contribute to our country in terms of research? Compare that with MIT or Cambridge or ETH Zurich.</p>
<p>So friends, don get carried away by these rankings they r stupid, find an institution that can give u all basic requirements and work hard and be passionate of becoming a good engineer.</p>
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		<title>By: debjit mukherjee</title>
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		<dc:creator>debjit mukherjee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am a student of jadavpur university...m studying in electrical engg department
with full full honesty and sincerity i would like to leave some of my questions........

j.u. is one of the oldest colleges in india and has a faculty which is at par with the iits
but on the other side the placement ,infrastructure and the quality of students is no where near the likes of iits,nit trichy,warangal,surathkal,bits,or dce

in many surveys i hv seen it performing highly
but by no means it deserves to be above these colleges</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am a student of jadavpur university&#8230;m studying in electrical engg department<br />
with full full honesty and sincerity i would like to leave some of my questions&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>j.u. is one of the oldest colleges in india and has a faculty which is at par with the iits<br />
but on the other side the placement ,infrastructure and the quality of students is no where near the likes of iits,nit trichy,warangal,surathkal,bits,or dce</p>
<p>in many surveys i hv seen it performing highly<br />
but by no means it deserves to be above these colleges</p>
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		<title>By: vaibhav</title>
		<link>http://admissionsource.wordpress.com/2007/07/13/data-quest-top-schools-in-india-2007/#comment-429</link>
		<dc:creator>vaibhav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 07:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>may i know where vit stands microsoft took one of our colligue for 9.12lakhs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>may i know where vit stands microsoft took one of our colligue for 9.12lakhs</p>
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